Jason Dungan – Blue Lake

1. Favourite knob or fader or switch on a piece of gear and why?

In the spring, I sold almost all of my pedals (channel switch, looper, EQ, some other things) so that I could first buy a 12-string guitar, but also because I decided to lean in to having a very minimal, nearly no-pedal setup. I used to use a compressor and an EQ on my guitar, but now I plug it straight into the amp. I remember seeing Fugazi play many years ago, and got my mind blown by seeing they played their guitars straight into the amp. This has a hands-on, active element to shaping sound that I find compelling.

Freeze pedal by Electro-Harmonix

However, I still use one pedal: a Freeze pedal by Electro-Harmonix. I send my zither through this pedal, and use it to occasionally freeze chords on the zither, turning them into drones. Because there are several strings being struck, the captured tone is quite dense harmonically, so the pedal “struggles” a bit, creating a beautiful-sounding but slightly varied, unstable drone. I use this playing live, and particularly when I’m playing solo, it’s an important extra sound in parts of the set. So my favorite knob is simply the fader knob on that pedal, which I keep up next to the zither, since I need to manually fade in and out while continuing to play. The fader is very sensitive so it allows me to do this in a very fluid way.

2. Do you have an ‘almost’ perfect bit of kit? What would you change?

Since my zither is self-built, working on finding an amplification solution took a lot of trial and error, mixing different piezo and mic setups. Some were very prone to feedback, and others created a very boomy sound. I finally found a great double-piezo and pre-amp setup made by the Oregon-based company K&K Sound. They produce a piezo mic for banjo, which has twin piezo heads wired in to one plug. So this allows me to cover more surface area of the instrument, thereby picking up a wider variety of sound.
If I could improve it, it would be to include a little instrument mic, perhaps inside the instrument.

K&K Sound piezo pickup on zither

3. What setup do you bring on holiday or tour or commute etc.?

On tour, I’m usually bringing two main instruments (guitar and zither), which is already pushing it, gear-wise, so I try to bring as little extra as possible. I usually bring the Freeze pedal, and then a small wind, either the clarinet if I have space, or an alto recorder. Often if I’m spending some days on holiday and I want to work on music, I’ll bring my Roland TR-06 drum machine – it allows me to work on ideas, even make demo recordings that have a little more “band” feel.

Roland 606 drum machine

4. What software do you wish was hardware and vice versa?

I loved recording on four-track tape machine when I was younger, for its hands-on feel and ability to create a sense of magic in the process, and also because it had a lot of limitations which could be creatively stimulating. If I could get my wish, it would be to somehow combine the workflow of Protools with the hands-on, low-fi feeling of a Tascam tape machine.

5. Is there anything you regret selling… or regret buying?

In the last 10 years, I think I bought 2 (or possibly 3) looper pedals, only to realize that I didn’t want to use them, and sold them again. I’ve now fully leaned in to playing direct and using no loopers.

6. What gear has inspired you to produce the most music?

Seagull acoustic guitar

This is possibly a slightly square answer, but it’s my guitar. As a teen, I saved up money mowing lawns and bought a Seagull acoustic guitar, I’ve probably had it since I was 13. I’m still playing it as my main instrument, and it has carried me through so many eras of interest in music. To still be working professionally on an instrument that I played as a kid does something semi-profound in my head, and I think it’s also just this feeling that the instrument represents what I love about music, that the instrument is this thing you have to meet with your body and mind and see what you can pull out of it. When I was 13 I sat and tried to play Jimi Hendrix songs on it, and now I use it to make my records, so that continuity is quite fascinating to me. It’s still my go-to instrument for working, thinking about new ideas, and to just play and see what comes out.

7. If you had to start over, what would you get first?

I went years without having a decent amp, just borrowing them from people to play and record. I now have a Fender Blues Junior, a relatively small but great-sounding amp that I really love. I would go back in time and get one of those as soon as possible.

Fender Blues Junior

8. What’s the most annoying piece of gear you have, that you just can’t live without?

This would have to be the zither. I made several versions myself over the past 5 or so years, and then in 2023, I had Jens Erik Larsen build a 36-string zither, based on an improved design of the previous versions. It’s got bridges on the soundboard, so that I can play with each hand on a separate section of the strings, giving a whole range of sounds and possibilities. It wasn’t insanely expensive, but it definitely cost something, and it took a few months to make. It’s really intrinsic to this extra dimension of the music, which is in dialogue with the guitar, but because this instrument is played in a very different way, it really creates a different sound world. Why is it annoying? It’s got a solid travel case, which is good for the instrument, but I tend to travel with both the guitar and the zither, which can really be murder sometimes.

Jens Erik Larsen built 36-string zither

9. Most surprising tip or trick or technique that you’ve discovered about a bit of kit?

This is quite basic, but I never really used a capo on the guitar, until recently. It was suggested to me by Carolyn Goodwin, who is the bass clarinettist in Blue Lake, but is also a very good guitar player. I often play in my own tunings, and these tunings create relations between the strings that I quite like. Using the capo more recently has allowed me to maintain some of these interval relations between the strings, but work in different keys, bringing more variation to the tonal material in the music, and I’ve found this quite exciting.

Guitar capo

Artist or Band name?

Blue Lake

Genre?

The first albums were made by me in my home studio, playing acoustic guitar, clarinet, various bits of percussion, keys, and a series of self-built string instruments that are related to the zither, but have some unique elements. I would connect the music to various strains of American music (country, folk, guitar soli) and is also reflective of my 10 years in Scandinavia, listening to local experimental music, jazz, and contemporary classical music in Denmark and Sweden. In the past few years, Blue Lake has expanded into a band, featuring Carolyn Goodwin on clarinets, Pauline Hogstrand on viola, Tomo Jacobson on double bass, and Oliver Laumann on drums.

Selfie?

Jason Dungan aka. Blue Lake

Where are you from?

I grew up in Dallas, TX, and have lived in Copenhagen since 2015.

How did you get into music?

I grew up in a very musical household, in the sense that my parents were very into live music, and really loved things like Crosby, Stills, and Nash, Joni Mitchell, Talking Heads. My father had a big record collection and was always making mix tapes for long car drives. The experience of listening to these tapes while the Texas landscape unspooled out the window was definitely a formative experience for me. I started playing guitar and cello from around 12-13, and then when I was 15 I moved to Switzerland, to a school with no music program. At that point, I started to write and record my own music on cassette, getting deep into the guitar and thinking about the recording process itself. I didn’t think so much about releasing this music, but I fell in love with the recording process itself at an early point.

I returned to the US for college, living in Vermont, where I was very active at the college radio station and played in a few rock bands, making my own songs that I would probably describe as noisy country-rock. At that point, I felt both deeply obsessed with music, but also felt like doing it professionally was somehow impossible – I think I imagined that I would do other things in life, and would somehow play in a band on the side.

I then moved to London, studying art, and I began to work as a visual artist and teacher, focusing on making films. I then was part of starting a band called Squares and Triangles, with 4 other London artists. This became a very active project, where we recorded regularly and played when we could. This was a lot about improv, group dynamics, and experimentation. I learned a huge amount about music and recording through this project.

And then, in 2015, I moved to Copenhagen and got immersed in the scene here, and decided to fully commit to making music, and started to put out records as Blue Lake. The early records were made at my home studio and at Christianshavns Beboerhus, as well as a summer house in Sweden. I was using guitar, cello, zither, and also building percussion instruments, finding objects to use in the music. The music kept evolving, and now I’ve been releasing the last 2 x LPs with Tonal Union, a British label.

What still drives you to make music?

I think it’s a way of thinking and working that at this point comes very naturally and on some level, feels necessary or unavoidable to me. The first couple of Blue Lake LPs were made as kind of mini-pressings of something like 80 copies. I didn’t really have an expectation that the records could travel beyond Copenhagen, but I felt that I needed to collect and document the music. For me, each record represents a way to gather together what I’m working on at the moment, and also to push forward and build from the last record. In that way, there’s always more to learn and more to discover, so it feels like a landscape that has endless possibilities, which I find very compelling. I still get a huge amount of excitement from working on new music, from recording, from playing live.

How do you most often start a new track?

In the beginning, I would often do some improvising while recording, and then go back to things that were interesting and revise them.
Increasingly, I am using more of a writing process, where I start to write elements on the guitar or the zither, and just get used to playing them and working out a structure before I do any recording. If it is something that keeps my interest over a period of time, I will then start recording it to get a sense of the wider arrangement, and to see if other elements or instruments can come into the mix.

How do you know when a track is finished?

Sometimes it takes a while… I recorded the most recent Blue Lake LP in the Village studio, in Vanløse, Copenhagen. This meant that I had to book studio dates, and you have to be extremely conscious of time and money. There were gaps of a few weeks between each session so I was able to evaluate the state of each track and work out what else I wanted to add, or if I wanted to re-record certain parts. I’m always asking a question of a track, which is: is there anything else it can do? Does it have more potential? I like to use the recording process to fully explore the possibilities of a track, while at the same time, I want to keep the immediacy and spontaneity of the performance. So I work at not overdoing things or over-layering them. Working at the Village was really useful in that each element is very well recorded, so it has a lot of presence and power. This encourages you to use as few elements as possible, and keeps the recordings focused.

Show us your current studio

Home studio piano and bass
Home studio zithers
Home studio drums
Home studio zither and acoustic guitars

Best creative advice that you’ve ever heard?

I read an article once which featured Steve Albini recording a band in his studio. They were talking about keeping in an element, but pushing it down low in the mix. Albini simply told them: “Feature it or fuck it”, which is to say: if it’s going to be in there, make sure it has a strong reason to be there, and that it’s doing something special in the track. Otherwise don’t bother.

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Blue Lake put out a mini-LP called Weft in January of this year on Tonal Union.

https://bluelake1.bandcamp.com/album/weft


Vincenzo Gabriele – Estelle Avenue

1. Favourite knob or fader or switch on a piece of gear and why?

Akai s612 sampler

It would have to be the start and end sliders on the Akai s612. I love the immediacy of playing with those sliders and reversing the sample with my fingers. That tactile feel lets me feel more connected to the sample.

2. Do you have an ‘almost’ perfect bit of kit? What would you change?

It would have to be the EMU Command Station. I love the sound it puts out. Plus the 16 track sequencer and hands on real time sound manipulation that can be had. If I could change something about it, it would be to save presets and programs better.

EMU Command Station

3. What setup do you bring on holiday or tour or commute etc.?

Just my iPhone running Koala sampler with either AUM or EG Nodes. I usually can create something I’m happy with using that, without the worry of having expensive pedals/synths/samplers broken, lost, or stolen.

Koala sampler

4. What software do you wish was hardware and vice versa?

BACKMASK by Freakshow Industries. It’s some type of reverse, but more than just a regular reverse. Whatever it’s doing is usually pretty wild, but sonically pleasing.

Backmask by Freakshow Industries

5. Is there anything you regret selling… or regret buying?

My brother and I bought a Studer A820 8 Track 1 inch machine from a local radio station. Low hours, pristine condition. We made some great recordings, just recording super hot at 30ips. We never did any maintenance on it and so one day (surprise, surprise), it stopped working. I definitely don’t regret buying it, and we haven’t sold it, so I can’t regret selling it. LOL!!
I regret not being able to fix it. (but hope to one day)

Studer A820 8 Track 1 inch machine

6. What gear has inspired you to produce the most music?

The Hologram Electronics Microcosm. Once I got that, it allowed me to start thinking outside the box. Giving old cheap keyboard/samplers a whole new lease on life. It inspired me to try and run different things through it to see the outcome.

Hologram Electronics Microcosm

7. If you had to start over, what would you get first?

Most likely the most powerful iPad Pro I could possibly afford. I believe they are capable of producing incredible results, in such a fast, efficient, portable, and sonically pleasing way.
I just enjoy plugging and unplugging things more. Twisting knobs and pushing faders is satisfying too.

8. What’s the most annoying piece of gear you have, that you just can’t live without?

Chase Bliss Habit. I don’t know exactly what it’s doing, but I need it on all the time.

Chase Bliss Habit

9. Most surprising tip or trick or technique that you’ve discovered about a bit of kit?

If you split your bass into two channels and run one into the mic input of the Akai S612, and the other direct, (essentially using the Akai as a distortion) you get a bass that really rips and cuts through the mix.

Akai S612

Artist or Band name?

Estelle Avenue

Genre?

Experimental Lofi Ambient Sound Texture Moments

Selfie?

Vincenzo Gabriele aka. Estelle Avenue

Where are you from?

Italian descent
Born and raised in Toronto, Canada

How did you get into music?

My parents bought my sister, brother, and I a Casio keyboard when we were young. I didn’t think much about at the time, but it must have had some affect on me.

What still drives you to make music?

I love creating something new when I can. It’s very therapeutic. A creative outlet.

How do you most often start a new track?

I try to go and create whenever I get the itch to.

How do you know when a track is finished?

I don’t really create tracks. Just moments.
Create something. Upload. Gone forever.
I’m not going to play it live or try and recreate it somewhere else.

Show us your current studio

Tempera Beetlecrab Audio
EHX Q-Tron and Memory Man
Walrus Audio R1 and buddy
Rack FX

Best creative advice that you’ve ever heard?

Don’t take yourself too seriously. Enjoy the process and have fun.

Promote your latest thing… Go ahead, throw us a link.

https://www.instagram.com/estelle.avenue


Aage Johnson – Sounds like ‘Oh’

1. Favourite knob or fader or switch on a piece of gear and why?

The mighty Hammond Organ

After giving this a lot of thought, I must admit it’s the power switch on almost any piece of gear. If not all gear. Being a Hammond organ player by heart, it’s always a bit of a cliffhanger, if the instrument will work or even turn on from one gig to the other – and with newer synths, the joy of seeing the lights flicker across the instrument when turning on, is pure bliss! The rest seems purely functional, but that first way of making contact with the instrument by turning it on does it for me. That almost sounds wrong.

2. Do you have an ‘almost’ perfect bit of kit? What would you change?

What first comes to mind is my Holy Grail (old reverb pedal). It has one knob: reverb amount. There’s absolutely nothing I would change on it. If not that, it’s gotta be the Korg MS-10. Super simple and perfect for what it can do and does. If I could change anything, it might be another oscillator – or the possibility of hearing a polyphonic version of it. Oh, and midi.

EHX Holy Grail

3. What setup do you bring on holiday or tour or commute etc.?

Holidays and commutes is where I bring the outcome of other people’s gear and ideas: their music. Since most of my worklife is based around music, holidays are not really a thing. Other people’s holidays are my busiest times of the year, and… well, as musicians, we don’t really take time off, do we? There’s always some sort of music going on… and this question got me thinking: if there was a piece of gear, I could bring – and this is sort of a dream for me – it would be the Vongon Replay. I don’t own one, and unfortunately never tried one, but wow… just look at it!

Vongon Replay

4. What software do you wish was hardware and vice versa?

I only use Ableton when it comes to software, but definitely wouldn’t wish all my hardware had turned to software overnight.

5. Is there anything you regret selling… or regret buying?

I bought an MS-20 and an MS-10 in 1998 and paid 2100 Danish kroner (about 300 dollars) for both of them. However, they seemed to be broken, ‘cause none of them produced more than one note at a time. Disappointed as I was, I sold them again for 2500 kr.
I did, however, buy an MS-10 a few years back, and love it to heaven and back.

Korg MS-10

6. What gear has inspired you to produce the most music?

The Hammond Organ. No doubt. The simplicity and it’s way of letting it sound like you can actually play, when all you do is just switch between a couple of keys and know your C7.

Hammond Organ

7. If you had to start over, what would you get first?

A band. Definitely. That has always been the main reason for playing music: hanging out, sharing stories and creating music. Dreaming.

8. What’s the most annoying piece of gear you have, that you just can’t live without?

The Roll’or’kari’s (dolly to haul the Hammond B-3 around). It’s heavy as hell, even by itself, and then you slap them on a 150 kg organ and carry them both. Hate it.
If it’s playable gear, it would be the Chase Bliss Mood. Not even the MKII. The first one ‘cause it’s such a beautiful piece of aesthetic wonder. Can make anything sound good and musical. Thing is, I still don’t really know exactly how it works or what it does and when it does it. Sort of like eating food when on vacation. You don’t really know what it is, how it tastes so good or what the consequences will be…
When it comes to annoying gear, that I wish I could sell, it’s the Chase Bliss CXM 1978. I wish I’d just sell it, but it just sounds so damn good. And those motorized faders… (getting chills just typing this)

Chase Bliss CXM 1978

9. Most surprising tip or trick or technique that you’ve discovered about a bit of kit?

Ooooh, this is a great question! Nikolaj Svaneborg from Svaneborg Kardyb taught me this trick for the Juno-6 and 60’s:

Set the resonance at 7 or 8, set the ‘kybd’ knob to 10, turn off all three oscillators, set the filter to 10 and then slide the fader down until tones start to come out. You can tune it quite precisely, but you never get it to tune perfectly – that’s the charm:-)

This sound can be heard on the track ‘Balancen’ from their newest album.

Juno-6

Artist or Band name?

The Orgelheimers, Nairobi Auto Service, Me Llamo Speedos and Hippie Da DA

Genre?

Hammond stuff, Ethiojazz, souljazz, surf, electronica, calm stuff

Selfie?

Nikolaj Aage Høi aka Aage Johnsen

Where are you from?

Copenhagen based

How did you get into music?

Wanted to hang out with the kids playing music in the small town I grew up in. It was an easy transition from skateboarding into music.

What still drives you to make music?

Good question. I’ve been low on drive for a while. The hassle of playing live, working with musicians (who run different notions of time and professionality) and a general “Why do we do this? Why do people need to hear this?”. And frankly, this is still a question for me. The key so far is sharing. Bringing music to people for whatever reason. As long as it means something. As long as it matters.

How do you most often start a new track?

By hearing a melody, beat or bassline in my head.

How do you know when a track is finished?

Usually doesn’t take long. when there are no more ideas that present themselves in relation to the piece I’m working on. Sometimes it’s as simple as others saying: “I think it’s great like this!”, then it’s done.

Show us your current studio

Studio space

Best creative advice that you’ve ever heard?

“No matter how much you practice, you can’t run away from who you really are”. Meaning: you are you, and you’ll sound like you. That’s who people go to see/listen to. They don’t listen to you to hear Bowie or Engelbert Humperdinck.

Promote your latest thing… Go ahead, throw us a link.

Maybe this odd piece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6hVgcTTGJg

Thanks for reading:-)